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BassyMcBassface
(@bassymcbassface)
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No, not an invite to an S&M session, but wondering what your views are to get the best sound (for you), from your Overwater.

 

Do you still use an amp, or are you a pre-amp person. If you run an amp, is it valve, class x,y,z?

 

Do you change cabinets for a better fretless sound?

 

Does the hype around cables make any audible difference down the Duck and Dive?

 

Have you found the most comfortable strap in the known universe?

 

Just wondering.

 

🤔

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Posted : 13/05/2020 8:48 pm
LouisL1963
(@louisl1963)
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Posted by: @bassymcbassface

No, not an invite to an S&M session, but wondering what your views are to get the best sound (for you), from your Overwater.

 

Do you still use an amp, or are you a pre-amp person. If you run an amp, is it valve, class x,y,z?

 

Do you change cabinets for a better fretless sound?

 

Does the hype around cables make any audible difference down the Duck and Dive?

 

Have you found the most comfortable strap in the known universe?

 

Just wondering.

 

I still use an amp - mine is an Aguilar TH500 (Class 'D' I think?) in conjunction with 2 x Epifani 1 x 10" cabs with a horn in each. I've had that setup for 8 years now, and it works a treat with both my Overwater, and my Xotic 5 string jazzes.

Cables I use were custom made for me by a chap called David Polglaze, who used to run a business called "Rock-Wire". David has since retired and closed the business recently, but had an excellent reputation on the "Basschat" forum for making superb quality instrument, microphone, and speaker cables. I've had mine for years, and they have yet to fail on me.

The most comfortable strap I've  had for the Overwater is a Leather "DeGier" strap - it's about 3 & a 1/2 inches wide, and I purchased that at the LBGS in 2018. It balances the weight of the Overwater well across my back and shoulders. Just what you need if you're doing 2 x 45 minute sets!

One addition I've recently made to the instrument itself was the installation of a new East "J-Tone" preamp, as the original pre installed on the bass had come to its natural end. 

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Posted : 14/05/2020 3:40 pm
BassyMcBassface
(@bassymcbassface)
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@louisl1963

 

Hi Louis,

 

Always interesting to hear what others are using. I've never played through any Epifani speakers but know of their fine reputation. They must be good to take a five string through two tens! Impressive.

 

I have a 'big' set-up and, surprise, surprise, a 'small' setup. The smaller of the two gets way more use, partly through laziness on my part and partly through not wanting to wake someone in Dover if I'm playing in Inverness.

 

Big rig is an Aguilar DB 751 through two Eden cabs (4x10 XST and  1X18); small rig is Euphonic Audio i-Amp 800 and two 12"EA cabs. I play mostly fivers and find that These give me a solid bottom end (oe-er missus).

 

I never came across your cable guy before - a shame that he's no longer around.

 

I like the straps made by Grant at Bison Boa, they feel like they've been pulled off a mammoth, but they are, I'm told, buffalo. Very nice guy as well and I like to support British companies if I can.

 

Let's hope others will follow on and chip in with their thoughts and recommendations.

 

Thanks for your comments

 

Bassyfacy

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Posted : 14/05/2020 4:00 pm
LouisL1963
(@louisl1963)
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Posted by: @bassymcbassface

@louisl1963

 

Hi Louis,

 

Always interesting to hear what others are using. I've never played through any Epifani speakers but know of their fine reputation. They must be good to take a five string through two tens! Impressive.

 

Thanks for your comments

 

Bassyfacy

Hi Bassfacy,

Yeah, they do a good job considering they're 1 x 10's - quite a tight sound, one day in the future I wouldn't mind going to 1 x 12's for a bit more low end.

 

Cheers,

Louis

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Posted : 14/05/2020 5:19 pm
Phill Court
(@phillcourtmusic)
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I'm usually an amp guy, Markbass LMIII or LM Ninja, a 1x12 & or 2x10 depending on my bad back or not 😂 or have them all in a flight case. I usually run them flat with a slight boost to the bass. Sometimes use g the vintage or modern filters if I fancy it. Overwater sounds crystal clear & beautiful through them, along with my other basses.

Last tour I was amp-less, IEM's etc and using my pedalboard with my MXR Bass DI+ same as above, all flat with a boost of bass & the colour switch if I fancy. Have been thinking about a Kemper but to too sure yet! Overwater sounded great & the clarity was superb.

Cable wise I'm not too fussy as long as they are robust, although, I'd like to look into customs. For amps I like the Van Damme with Neutrik connectors. 

I've been using the Mono Betty short strap. Very comfy but could do with being half an inch wider for myself.

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Posted : 14/05/2020 5:41 pm
BassyMcBassface
(@bassymcbassface)
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@louisl1963

 

If you're going for 12" cabs, I can recommend Bergantinos - deep and clear. (They no longer make the EA 12s I use, but my son has Bergs)

 

McBassface

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Posted : 14/05/2020 7:29 pm
BassyMcBassface
(@bassymcbassface)
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@phillcourtmusic

Another bassist with a knackered back? Ever wish you played the flute?

 

set-up sounds good though. 

below shows it was a big hall as the 'big rig' was out.

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Posted : 14/05/2020 7:34 pm
Hands of the King
(@hands-of-the-king)
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@bassymcbassface

Amp: Demeter VTBP 800D and 2 Barefaced Big Baby II Cabs, best sound I've ever had. The cabs are very light too. I've played through all sorts over the years, but this is the only set up where i have consistently been able to hear myself. I used to have an SWR with 2 Peavey 4x10s, looked great, couldn't hear a damned thing on stage.

Cables: Whatever I have in my bag, usually an Horizon thing and a couple of Mogamis, no idea what they are exactly though. No curly ones.

Straps:Right On leather strap mostly, but sometimes an Heistercamp leather, can't remember the name, wide and soft anyhow.

I have a few pedals but mostly i use just my Origin FX compressor. I have a love hate thing with compressors. The ones that are built into the amp have always crapped out on me, so I have used pedals and even they have played up, both Darkglass models that I had cut out mid gig, and then cut back in again. Happened too often so out the door they went. The Origin has been totally reliable, built like a tank, does the job.

I purchased a couple of Barefaced 1x10s to use at rehearsals, they arrived just in time for the Lock down...

 

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Posted : 14/05/2020 7:59 pm
Phill Court
(@phillcourtmusic)
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@bassymcbassface Everyday! Plus I'm not even 30 so it's only going to get worse!

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Posted : 14/05/2020 10:46 pm
BassyMcBassface
(@bassymcbassface)
Trusted Member

@hands-of-the-king

Hi,

I've never been able to try out any Barefaced gear. Will try to re-double my efforts, given your comments.

 

Heistercamp straps are also excellent gear - as you'll know, they are solid and very comfortable. I bought a Right-on strap for my son's birthday and he certainly likes it. I have just this minute found a strap I had forgotten I even owned, made by Liam's who are, I think, based in The Netherlands. Again, very comfortable and seriously thick leather, but only around £30 to buy - they knock spots of some straps at three times that cost.

 

I, like you, have a relationship with compressors and am not a huge fan. I've owned two or three, but to be honest, I often struggle to hear exactly what they are actually doing to the sound of the bass unless they are set to an extreme where it sounds like someone has shoved a pillow into your speaker cone. I will take my chances without at the moment.

😊

 

I bet you can't wait to hear those new Barefaced cabs. Once you do, give's some feedback.

 

take care

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Posted : 15/05/2020 3:57 pm
BassyMcBassface
(@bassymcbassface)
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@phillcourtmusic

 

Ouchy McOuchface

 

😬

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Posted : 15/05/2020 3:58 pm
ChrisWood
(@chriswood)
New Member

I probably split my time 50/50 between amp and IEMs. I have an Aguilar Ag500 head into 2 PJB cabs. I use a Radial DI with Read Audio R303 IEMs when amps aren’t needed. 

I have Monster Cables, not because I think they have magic in them like the sales pitch will suggest but because they are bullet proof and last forever. One of them is over 10 years old!

 

i still have an overwater strap that is getting on a bit but I’ve never found anything as comfy or hard wearing! 

Please make them again!!!

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Posted : 29/06/2020 8:47 pm
BassyMcBassface
(@bassymcbassface)
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Good point my friend. Whatever happened to Overwater straps and gig-bags? 

I won't sleep for wondering about that now!

 

Aaarrrrggghhh!

 

BMcB

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Posted : 30/06/2020 10:26 pm
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