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Assuming you have, or are about to land an Overwater ...
Assuming you have, hope for, or are about to land yourself one of the best basses on the planet, what was/is the worst bass you have ever had the pleasure of fighting?
For me, it was an early Japanese (?) copy of a Gibson EB0. It was made who knows where, cost about £60 new, and was paid up monthly in a catalogue-deal with fifty pence a time. It was short-scale, with a non-adjustable Bridge saddles (the real Gibbos were the same I recall)
i have a memory of all the strings going very, very, very flat during a gig one night. Looking down at the bass to see what was wrong, I noticed the entire bridge had pulled out of the body of the bass to allow the strings to stick to the magnetic pole-pieces of the pickup. Now there's A noise to waken the vicar!
It had terrible neck-dive, high action and very sloppy tuners (just remembered it was badged 'Avon'), earthing problems and came in its very own 'bag' with no padding and a zip which broke within a week. Did all this put me off? Not a bit. I loved that thing and still remember how pleased I was when it arrived. Only one other person in my school had a real 'electric' bass and taking it into music class led to more than a few gasps, ooohs and aahs!
I gave that bass away when I was in my mid-twenties to allow a younger guy in the area to start playing. It went off to Canada with him, nearly forty years ago, but you know, crappy as it was, I'd still buy it back, just for nostalgia's sake.
As a footnote, that bass was played when it first arrived, through another catalogue amplifier called a 'Hawk 15'. You guessed it, a full 15 watts of transistorised awfulness. It had a channel for the bass, a guitar and a microphone. At the time, our fledgling band all went through that with a drummer hammering away and drowning everything out. Nothing, I repeat, nothing, ever came close to sounding as bad as that amp. I'm still in therapy for PTSD just thinking about it. I still remember finding it in the garden shed of my parent's house when they passed and tipping it into a wheelie-bin (Room 101 refused it entry!)
Anybody got similar memories?
Here's an old grainy photo of the very beast.
Was that gig in Australia?
My worst bass still lives here with me, glares at me from the corner of the room.
I got back into gigging about 2009 and I wasn't too comfortable doing it, so I started dressing up, and wearing outlandish gear to hide behind… as you do. Anyway One pic of me in costume attracted the attention of a mate who said he had just the bass to go with my outfit. He dropped it off, and has never returned to collect. Its Called a Vintage Metal Axxe (yes, 2 x's) Wraith Bass, apparently.
That one looks like a Warwick Buzzard Crossed with roadkill. Pleeeeaaase, no photos of the outfit!
Another Australian photo? Looks fine this end. I blame Martin
OK. Think back to 1973 (If you've never heard of it, ask your Dad). I'm a long-haired spotty teen badgering my parents for an electric guitar. At Christmas one appeared, a £12 Kay item from Woolworths. It was awful to start with, but was soon to get far, far worse. I soon realised I preferred bass (hurrah!) but there was no way my parents were going to be persuaded to get me one so I did what seemed reasonable at the time. I bought a set of long scale Rotosounds and somehow managed to cludge them onto the poor Kay. It sounded as bad as it looked. No, it was worse. It lasted until I saved up and bought a secondhand Antoria. Thankfully, no pictures exist of the abomination, and definitely no sound lips.
Mine was a 1983/84 Fender Jazz I bought in 1987. It was Black with a Maple neck and fingerboard and had what I can only describe as an "all in one pickguard and bell plate" made of White plastic with Strat style knobs.
I purchased it as I'd always wanted a Jazz, and after I started using it for rehearsals and a gig, it was the most underwhelming bass I've ever had. Needless to say, it was traded in at Chappell's in Bond St for an Ibanez MC940 months later.
1973! Remember it well. Face pressed into music shop windows looking at basses I couldn't afford. woolies's guitars! I feel a nostalgia trip coming on. Where's my flares and high waist baggies?
I know the Fender you are talking of. I absolutely loved mine. One of the few basses I really, really regret selling. It had a wonderful sound - just one of those things I suppose.
I think what didn't help was that it still had a neck like a banana even after shelling out for a set up at Andy's in London. Fender's QC was very hit & miss in those days, but sounds like you had a good one.
You're probably right there. I remember some very bad basses from the70's. Always find it interesting that people on other well-known sites Are willing to sell their Grannie for something made in 1974 or whatever. The basses (not all, by any means), could be seriously poor then, so why would the passage of forty-odd years make any improvements?
There's one born every minute right enough.
I bought a fretless 5-string from ebay once; when it arrived it looked ok, but once it was tuned up it was unplayable so it went back (to Germany!). Then I bought a Harley Benton B-500FL from Thomann, expecting it to be "ok" at the worst, but it wasn't. Very poorly finished, and lots of weird buzzes. Ended up trying three of those with Thomann footing the bill for returns every time and none of them were any good, including ones with actual bumps in the neck that were really bad, so ended up shelling out a bit more for a Rockbass Streamer fretless.
That's a cliffhanger! Was the Streamer ok? Did it too, head back to the depot? Does it now live in luxury, or lies it in the darkest recesses of the shed?
We the public, need to know. More fretting for me again.
Here a bass, there a face, everywhere a facebass.
LOL! The Streamer's good! Until a few weeks ago, when I needed to get my 4 string out (1985 Aria Laser Heritage), it was easily accessible on my stand. It's now in a case, but I'm looking at sorting something out so I can get it out again (hence my question in the general discussion section about hangers.
The Rockbass fret less is quite nice to play, although this one has two issues; neck dive, and very quiet pick-ups. Apparently they're 'vintage style' or something, hence they're quiet. I've been contemplating fitting a John East 3-knob EQ to see if it helps, but they're not cheap and I'd rather put that amount towards an Overwater.
Had another thought re hanger. Being on a hanger or a stand leaves the bass subject to quick changes of temperature and/or humidity, not the case in a case (pardon my pun). Hanger 0 Case/gig bag 2.
I'd agree with saving for the Overwater. You could always upgrade the Warwick later. Is it a fretless Overwater you're going for? If it is, drop a line to Roy Muir - you'll find him in the members section if this forum. He's a fretless fanatic and his OW 5 -string Perception sounds great. (Good guy as well!)
Fretted or fretless, you won't be disappointed if you buy an Overwater. I'm sure others on here might just agree with me. Good luck in the quest.
@bassymcbassface It would be a fretted Overwater; fretless is just to dabble with - sadly, as that bass in the photo is gorgeous. This may be answered elsewhere, but what's the difference between Perception and Progress? Perception doesn't seem to be a current model.
Wrt hangers, I probably wouldn't hang my 'best' one up. The Dean, which is currently my 'best' one, only leaves its gig bag when it's time to play it.
The Progress is the flagship - through-neck. The Perception was bolt-on and a slightly different, more compact shape. Best to throw the question over to Chris: he'll tell you all there is to know. Both models are stonking in my opinion (but I'm biased)!
You need to decide which type of bass you are going for if you decide to buy an OW. The woods make a fair old difference - again, give Chris a shout. You want it to be exactly what you want in terms of scale, pups, etc.
Give Kirsty a call and blame me - everyone else does. As said before, best of luck.
McB o' the F